Lorissa: (01:14)
Yes. I, you know, I think it’s so amazing to think back I met you, Gosh, we’ve been working together for probably, Oh, I mean, over a year, a year and a half probably. Yeah. We’ve known each other and have worked together and it’s just so cool to see how God brings people into each other’s lives and how, you know, relationships are built and developed and then, you know, without even realizing it, this dream that God had for you, the dream that God placed on our hearts was Sterling and I to create this company and just how it’s all unfolding and then you coming on board being a great blessing to us and to our members. It’s just so cool. So let’s take a moment just to get to know you a little bit, for those that are just learning about you. Tell us a little bit about you.

Christina: (02:07)
Well, my name’s Christina Brown. I’m Paul’s wife. We’ve been married for 23 years here in December. We have six amazing children that range from 20 coming up to 22 and four, so not quite in November, my top and bottom will be turning 22 and four. So yes, we have, if you add that or do some math and sub subtraction, we have an 18 year gap. And so we’re one of those wide expanded families that I’ve been trying to embrace. So over the past few years which is very different from my husband and my upbringing. Well this is a little wider, but we each come from four is what I mean. So my family is, you know, every other year, you know, two years apart and Paul’s is a little wider in that way, but SOF six has been a journey in itself with ups and downs as many people.

Christina: (03:06)
But embracing it and seeing the beauty unfold the way God has stored for us has been a learning process. But one that I’ve totally embraced now through Masters, not totally, I should say, work in progress of just the joy that God has for me there. I’ve been a stay at home mom pretty much our whole marriage. Our oldest came along about a year after we were married. And I, with a couple this and that on the side, I went back to work in between our fifth and sixth child for a little bit at my children’s school. They’re at the Catholic, elementary and high school here in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Yeah. And now to be able to branch into life coaching has just really been a fulfillment of God’s desires in my heart that I’ve actually come to understand and embrace through masters and through one-on-one coaching with Lorissa. And I’m just so excited to start this new journey and that has been in the works for a while and just being able to recognize in a new way and a new state in life, God’s plan for me. So it’s a little bit of my background.

Lorissa: (04:19)
Yes. Okay. So I wanna ask you, how did you, what, like how did you come across Masters? How did you hear about us or find out?

Christina: (04:27)
Yeah, so I, like I said, a lot of this has to do with our, our six kids and where I was at in my life when our number five and six came along, cuz we have a five and a half year gap between four and five and then another four year gap between our number five and six. And so, like I said, we both came from Paul and I from children of four and I kind of just saw that for us. So I was trying to figure out as our fifth came along, like what I was supposed to do cuz I kind of just saw myself moving back out working outta the home eventually after our fourth child. And obviously that’s not what God had planned. And right when I was getting to the point where she was gonna be in school full time, I found out I was expecting again.

Christina: (05:16)
And I really wanted to stay home. I loved that my mom stayed home with us. And so after Peter our fifth came along, I started just hitting that point, Okay, what’s next? Like, okay, Lord, this, I just was getting very unsettled. And that kind of coincided with one of my sons having some, just struggles with anxiety and mental health that really through my husband and I and into a, a way of having to kind of trust and learn a lot of tools and through us on this journey of trying to find that. And so through that I started, I finally found your podcast through a bunch of different Catholic means of looking into things like what Jen Full Weiler talked about looking into the Catholic Mindset book, look reading different things. And somehow I came upon Made For Greatness and the podcast and it just struck such a deep chord with me.

Christina: (06:16)
And I started Be Kind, I was a regular listener and that’s how I heard about Masters. Cause you were just gonna be starting that. And we hit a red point in our relationship. My husband and I were trying to help our son who was starting to learn a lot of tools that you talked about on your podcast. And my husband and I just felt very behind in what he was becoming, going from one of the most, you know, volatile in some ways in our family to the most emotionally regulated. And his therapist was teaching a lot about cognitive behavioral therapy, which a lot of the model is based off of. And we were like, quick, we got, we gotta figure this out. And Masters came up at the right time and I know it was just the Holy Spirit just saying here. And I talked to Paul and he’s like, What do we have to lose?

Christina: (07:04)
Like, you’ve been looking for something, we’ve been looking for help. And I was at a personal place besides a mothering place of just saying, Lord, I just, where do you want me? Where am I supposed to go? I’m, I’m struggling, I’m struggling to support him, I’m struggling on my identity. Now in my forties I have six children at this point. And what do you want? So I joined Masters right away, and have been one of, you know, your beginning founding members since it came into existence. And within those first, I think two or three months, I remember specifically all of the stuff Masters was teaching. I was like, I need a retreat away. So that led to me going away for a girl’s weekend, but getting an opportunity to head out early and all of my girlfriends that we had done this annual trip with for the past like 10 years and it just worked out Holy Spirit that I could go earlier.

Christina: (08:02)
And as you can tell, I like to talk. I’m quite an extrovert. I enjoy my time, I feed off the energy of people and I was like, No, I’m gonna go be silent for like 24 hours. I was by myself, so that makes it a little bit easier. But I was really like, No, I’m just gonna plunge in here. I’m just gonna really delve in doing that. I went up north, I’m here in Michigan. I was born and raised in Michigan and I was going up north to one of the lakeside towns that’s very quiet in the middle of winter. And I started listening to them. I just binged Lorissa’s talk, your talk on stress and overwhelm and I felt like you were sitting in the car with me and it was like, I need to meet this person. This is totally speaking to me. And I would rewind and listen. I finished the whole course, I think that evening and the next morning and through that I reached out for a discovery call with you that ended up happening that weekend. And I talked to Paul and I said, I’m just gonna do this. He’s like, Yeah, you need to do this. So we started one- on-one coaching, I think that was February or March or what? 2020 I think. Yeah, 21.

Lorissa: (09:09)
Yeah, 21.

Christina: (09:11) 21. Yeah. It was already into co I can’t, yeah. I said my maths really bad, . So that’s how it, I discovered masters and that’s how I came into one in one coaching through that point there.

Lorissa: (09:21)
Nice. Yeah. And so we did, we started kind of early on in, at 21 and then have worked together. You’ve been one of our members and it’s just been a great blessing to be kind of on this journey together. As, you know, we dive into our thoughts and how we wanna show up for our families, all of that. Mm-Hmm. . And then you know, I think a while back you were, you were really praying and discerning, Okay, God, what do you have next for me? Kind of as you just alluded to a little bit and really felt the promptings to wanna step into coaching. You have a lot of gifts in this, and I, and I mentioned this to you before, but Christie is one of my clients who just goes all in on this and, and obviously you, you know, you have a desire to wanna be able to help your family, your children, your husband, all of it, learning this stuff, just like Sterling and I, I mean we kind of, we were struggling with some things. We started learning these tools and once you learn them you’re like, gosh, I wanna just share this. I wanna help others with this. Because, you know, when you feel blessed in a way, when you grow, when you experience peace in your life in a way that you haven’t before, you want to share that with the people you love and with others that maybe you feel God might be calling you to serve. And so about probably eight, eight or nine months ago you really felt that maybe calling a little bit to step into coaching.

Christina: (10:53)
Yeah. Yeah. I think it was last, I think summer into fall. I think at first there was this part of me, like you said, learning these tools, all of a sudden it was like, well, is it just because I’m learning these tools that I feel this drive? And so there was this discernment process and I remember working with you Lorissa specifically, but then also kind of wanting that confirmation from the Lord through my husband. And it eventually came off just him saying, Have you looked at this? Has this happened? And, and it wasn’t where I was completely silent on it, but I just felt like I needed to know is this, is this just something I’m desiring? But Paul was just, has been a hundred percent onboard this whole time, which is a huge, huge, you know, confirmation of what the Lord’s calling me to.

Christina: (11:42)
And I realized that some of the things I was working through with Lorissa of like how to dream again, of how you know, of having at this point in your life, you know, once you’ve mothered those younger children of what does God have in store? And, there was a lot that I needed to work through just thinking, okay, well I’m done, but I’m only like 40 something and that doesn’t really make sense. I have half my life to live. I turned 45 this past spring and my kids like to remind me now I’m halfway to 90. And then if you look at the age expectancy, it’s like a hundred and something now. And, and so I was like, okay, I have more than half my life to live. What do you want of me, God? And he just really directed me to coaching.

Christina: (12:26)
And I had so much desire there that it was kind of like a relief. Like yes, this is what this is. I have so much I want to give back. I’ve learned so many tools, I’ve found joy in my life without changing my circumstances of just being able to say, No, this is the life God has given me. This is how I can step in and show up authentically as who I am as a beloved daughter of God. And just embrace what he has in store. Even though those might be not expectations I thought I would have if you had asked me in my twenties, like, Is this where you thought you’d be? I’d be like, No. Like, you know, you imagine when you’re a little girl, I was gonna be a figure skater and then I was gonna be an actress and I was gonna commute from Hawaii to California because at age 10 that seemed totally practical and you know, and then life goes on and I, you know, I thought I’d work, you know, on air as an anchor.

Christina: (13:22)
And it’s funny cuz one of the girls that I went to Michigan State with is an anchor here in Grand Rapids. And I’m like, I always joke we were in class together. I’m like, Yeah, she has my job. You know, she went that way and I stayed home and raised a family. And so our life changes. I always wanted to get married, always had a family, but I never thought of life once my family started growing and as they were transitioning, what did that mean for me as a wife and a mother? And I think the tools from life coaching have really helped me to be able to see what my gifts and talents are. Some have changed and some are very much the same that I’ve had since I was born. You know, that God has given me these sets and how to bring them forward and to utilize them in my life now, which looks much different than it did in my twenties and in my thirties.

Christina: (14:14)
And that that’s not a selfish thing, that that’s very much me honoring the Lord I win through my gifts and talents that he’s given me. Like just, you know, just in the parable of the talents and what if I was gonna bury them in the ground? That’s not giving worship to God. But that’s been a journey to understand. I even get emotional thinking about it like, because of where I was. And to hear myself saying that because it’s still a struggle. It’s still a daily thing that I have to get up and say, Okay, how I’m gonna show up today and how am I gonna serve? And I was reflecting on this actually today when I was praying about my vocation of service as a wife. You know, I’m not a priest, I haven’t taken vows, but there’s two vocations of service.

Christina: (15:06)
We have two sacraments of holy orders and of match money and mine is of matrimony. And that that is a life of service to my husband and to my children. But now as I embrace and step into this life coaching, it’s still a life of service that as God has called me to, to my clients, to the master’s community, to Made for Greatness. And I’m so blessed and excited to be able to do this and really to be able to give back because I’ve just been hugely blessed by this. And when I sit and think about it, it’s like, wow, the Lord is about such a great work in all of us. And a lot of times we just get too caught up and not taking that time to reflect back and realize the greatness that he is about and that the greatness he has in us that we were not made for comfort, we’re Made for Greatness. And to really see that is just awe inspiring.

Lorissa: (16:02)
Yes, yes. Oh my gosh, you put it so eloquently. And I think that there might be some mothers right now who can, who as you’re speaking are resonating. Like it’s, it’s probably hitting them. And I, I agree. I kind of walked a very similar journey of, okay, God, you’ve called me to this vocation of marriage and motherhood, and yet you still place these dreams on my heart to use my gifts and talents to serve obviously within my home. But, beyond it and responding to that calling can be a very holy one. And I know you and I have talked about that before at pretty great length because it’s hard sometimes our brain wants to think like, well maybe is it selfish? Is it, you know, maybe we feel guilty about wanting to pursue things that might be, you know, alongside our vocation?

Lorissa: (17:02)
And, yet here we are and witnessing God unfolding this in both of our lives. And I think in my experience, it’s only helped me in my vocation like learning these tools and serving women and being in, you know, I’m, I’m involved in ministries. I know that you’re involved in ministries at your church and stuff. And when we do those things and we find ourselves within, surrounded in a beautiful community of like-minded people, it only helps us in our vocation. So I don’t know if you’ve, how you feel about that or what you’ve

Christina: (17:36)
Experienced. Yeah, I think it’s, it’s, it goes, it’s tied in so much with self care for ourselves. Like my husband says that all the time. Like, I was just at an event last night at our parish, It was our, our women’s guild. We do like a fall potluck and the speak, we had a speaker that came in that I actually know, she’s in a book club. She was a former teacher at our school, she’s about my age. And she came in and talked with Stress, which I totally ate up because it totally coincides with life coaching and what we’re doing. But just talking, like listening to her talk, talking to her after being with the women, I was just fueled. And I come home and I show up better, right? We show up better when we do things we love. And we talk about that a lot in masters of just what, you know, when we’re stressed, like pausing, What do you need right now?

Christina: (18:29)
What do you need Christy for this time? And just talking ourselves through that, taking the time if it’s a nap, if it’s a bath, if it’s reading a book, if it’s going on a walk, but seeing like, have I prayed today? Have I exercised? And what fuels me? What fuels me is not gonna fuel the rest of our master’s community. It will resonate with some, but other people are much more introverted or other people are fully content playing on the ground with their toddlers and they just thrive off of being with their kids. I have a dear friend like that and I, and it was hard for me when I was younger and we were in the midst of, you know, babies and toddlers and she just loved it. And I, it wasn’t that I didn’t love it, but I just saw this zeal she had for motherhood at that stage.

Christina: (19:17)
That was more of a challenge for me. And, you know, where as my kids grew, I love that stage more of them learning to read and navigating this. And now as they are moving through different transitions, there’s something that I feel like I can resonate more and I, I receive more in motherhood that way. But then also learning this whole life coaching process and for me, being able to give and speak and work with my one on one clients and I come back and my family’s like, Oh, and here’s mom. Like, wow. And it just, you know, resonates and it lights me up. And then I have, it’s such a paradox in some ways. Like we’re giving more of ourselves, but then we have more to give because our love tank, to use that word, has been filled. And then we have more to give.

Christina: (20:04)
I think about it like having babies. It’s not like our love splits into, okay, I have one baby and now there’s only half for the next baby, and then there’s only a third for the next baby. It’s almost multiplied because we’re using those to give gifts and talents that the Lord has given us and we’re able to multiply then how we have, we can give back to our families in our vocation of service because we’re being filled in whatever gifts and talents when we’re giving back. And that’s a way of, of self care of ourselves and it’s a way of serving others at the same time. So I just, I love seeing how that coincides and, and that the reality, and I think that’s, it just goes back to the, what I think our Lord does, as in our human nature is through the sacraments of like tangible things of, of smells, of incense, of rosary, beads, of receiving the Eucharist of all these things that our humanness needs to be filled.

Christina: (21:00)
He knows what we need in, in, in each individual moment so that we can be filled and we can be rejuvenated to go out, like we’re sent forth at the end of every mass, right? We’re sent forth and by our sending, we’re supposed to be, have been filled in mass so we can go and live our vocation to love and serve the Lord. And that is a discernment process of, of where is God calling us and where is God calling you and where your gifts and talents utilize best to serve him? And that’s, that’s holy work. That’s not a selfish thing. It’s a holy thing. That I think we each need to examine and never stop examining ke like now the time is changed again. Now this baby is older or, or this child is off to college or I’m an empty nester and what does that look like for me, Lord, My work of growing and my faith with God never ends just like our, our work as a mother never ends. It constantly changes. And how my better spouse to my husband as our relationship changes through these things and navigating those it’s, it’s never over. But, and it’s beautiful that the Lord always has a work for us. That he wants to invigorate us. He wants us to live in that greatness he has for us.

Lorissa: (22:19)
Absolutely. Yes. I think that you know, it’s funny cuz it was kind of eye opening for me. I really thought, and I mean I got married when I was 26 years old and I remember the discernment process because I was discerning the religious life and marriage and all of that. And it felt like I had been in the discernment process pretty intensely for five or six years in my early twenties until I got married. And I remember having this moment, it’s so naive looking back, but like, I was like, oh, now I’m married and now I don’t have to discern anymore because now I know my vocation. And then , sure enough, a couple years later, I think we’re, we’re always in that discernment. I mean, yes, maybe we will know what our vocation is and there’s a lot of peace when God reveals that to us.

Lorissa: (23:10)
But we are, we’re always discerning or you know, we go through periods. I mean, there’s times that maybe a year or two goes by and then you find yourself discerning something. How is God calling me now? And where is he calling me to serve? Where is he calling me to use my gifts and talents? And when we are doing that, when we are using our gifts and talents to glorify him, it is so life giving. It just, it really is. It stirs within you. And I think that God is so, so beautiful in how he allows us to contribute to his plan. Mm-Hmm. , I mean, he could have just made us and made us like little robots and you go do this and you go do this. But he lets us truly, he wants to let us shine in a way and we can be a part of his plan, not only in using our gifts and talents, he also allows us to enter in and share in his sufferings and in his redemptive work. Like he allows us to participate in his glorifying actions. And it just, I think speaks so much to who he is and his great and profound love for us. He would like that he desires for us to cooperate with him and that he desires to bless us in and through that. And that when we get to show up as his instrument, we of course are the ones that receive so much even through our giving.

Christina: (24:45) Yeah. I love it very much.

Lorissa: (24:47) Yeah.

Christina: (24:48)
Yeah. I just, I loved how you, even just the discernment part of it, I just, I think it’s very normal for us to, I thought very much so. Like what, like marriage, babies done, you know, like I discerned this, I did this, I had this and now I’m done. And I think it’s a very normal thing to have. So I, I guess I wanted to say that because I know there might be listeners that are like, Well what do you mean? Like, we have to keep discerning this. And, but I think it’s a, it’s a joy and it’s a gift cuz I think a lot of time discernment can sound so daunting and or overwhelming or, and it’s really, I think the Lord, I don’t know, I don’t wanna be repetitive, but the, that the Lord has more for you or, or this is just the next step.

Christina: (25:34)
Not that we have, it’s not, it shouldn’t be an overwhelming thing that it’s one more thing we have to add to the list or it’s one more thing that now we have to do this because I think it’s the time that the Lord brings that up. Like you said, Lorissa, like you got a few years into it and you’re like, Oh, and now I need to discern this. It’s very much a prompt that the Lord will make a parent. And I think that’s really where trust comes in and just how we have to keep trusting the Lord in different ways or, or we might feel like we have gotten to that point in our lives where, oh, finally got it down. I know how to trust God. I know I felt like that a few years ago, especially with my son, it was like, Oh, there’s a light at the end of the tunnel and I’m seeing this and the Lord has been faithful and I’m so grateful for God’s continued never ending faithfulness.

Christina: (26:23)
And then that child is now going off to college and this fall I think he’s doing great mom here. It’s been a challenge, you know, and it’s going back and digging deep and where am I centered and where are those roots stretching out and going back to God and saying, Yeah, I need to grow and trust again. I need to, you know, grapple with that. Like, do, do I really trust you Lord, that you’ve got him, that you’ve got me? And where is that? So I think it’s not, discernment isn’t something to shy away from as much as it’s something to embrace that the Lord has more in store in a beautiful way. And it’s beautiful to watch it in full, just like we watch our children grow and, when they learn to walk or they start to read or they discover a talent, one of my daughters as a dancer, and oh my gosh, I just love watching her dance.

Christina: (27:20)
I love it because it’s this talent. She’s an Irish dancer, so it’s even more rare. Like it’s not jazz or ballet, which are both beautiful and amazing, but there’s not a lot of Irish dancers here in the us. And to see her do something in the way she could move her feet and keep rhythm, I love seeing that gift that my daughter has and to be experiencing it with her and to see the joy she has in this talent that she’s given. And as she’s getting older too, she’s in those hitting those teen years for her to recognize her talents and that this is something unique to her. And to be able to guide and teach her in this is just another way to show our kids to pass on discernment and trust to them in those ways, in the ways they can grasp it at their age level and that type of thing.

Christina: (28:08)
And then, but to reflect it back to the father, that’s how he teaches us too, when it’s appropriate at the time in our lives, in the dosage that we can receive. Because that shouldn’t be an overwhelming thing. It should be a gift that we’re receiving from God. Like, Oh, here’s another time to trust, here’s another time to discern. As much as, as I even say that, I go, I don’t, I don’t always think about it that way. I know there’s truth in that, but I don’t know if I can always embrace and think about it that way, but I know that is the truth. . Yeah. Yeah. I get a,

Lorissa: (28:43)
And I love, I mean, just seeing you kind of light up and talking about your daughter and how you delight and, and seeing her shine and use her gifts in, in a way that is, is so beautiful. I think our Lord delights in us and he is looking upon us, like probably saying something very similar. Like, there’s my girl, look at her, go look at what she’s doing.

Christina: (29:07) And

Lorissa: (29:08)
I love to see her gifts in this area and I love to see her using them. And I think so there’s a lot of correlations there. So as we kind of like wrap up, I, I wanna just let people know, so you have joined our team at Made For Greatness and what this means is that Christy is one of our coaches and in our master’s program she is doing so each of us, we’ve got Chris Christina, we’ve got Denise, and then Sterling and I we each do a group coaching call every week. So Christina has one on Tuesdays, so if you are one of our master’s members, you gotta jump on with her on Tuesdays. And so she’ll be doing that. And then she will also be taking one on one clients within our master’s program. You don’t even have to be a master to work with Christina. So I don’t know if you wanna speak to that a little bit, kind of what your areas of focus might be, although we can coach on anything, that’s what we’re trained for through our certification, but if you wanna highlight some of those areas that maybe if somebody’s listening, they might go, Oh yes,

Christina: (30:26)
Yeah, for sure. Yeah, like Lorissa said, we’re trained to deal with all things in a lot of ways, very general coaching, but I, I’ve alluded to some of that that, you know, I’ve had, we’ve had some mental health in our family as well as dealing with that myself that I have a lot of background in that area of how to just kind of work through that as well as support either other women yourself, your children, your spouse in that area. I’ve had some experience there and I’m excited to work with women that want to just kind of delve a little bit more deeply into that and what that looks like, as well as just the transitions of life for yourself as well as your children. Like I said, I have children who, my oldest, is a senior in college.

Christina: (31:18)
I have a freshman in college, high school, middle school, elementary school and preschool. So yes, I kind of run the gamut. I’m not perfect in all of it, but I’ve dealt with them and as they move through that, and that’s, I think it’s a gift. It’s a gift that we can have as mothers to see that, to walk with our children, but it also presents its own challenges. And so there’s a lot that can delve in and handle our mindset on that and our thoughts around that as just really finding joy, finding joy in your season of your life and the beauty that God has given you in your family makeup and your marriage. And just really coming to understand how our circumstances don’t really have to change in the way that we can experience joy in our life and just get, you know, taking control and responsibility for our own thoughts and how that affects us and, and being able to recognize them.

Christina: (32:15)
And that was just a huge gift for me through one-on-one coaching with Lorissa in terms of just being able to slow down and recognize those and be able to be challenged to find the joy in the every day in how my life is without changing really anything except for my own thoughts and the way I showed up for myself each day, each and every day. I think one-on-one coaching is a great gift for that, just to have a cheerleader. It’s a coach just like you would in sports, just like you would in your business. Sterling does a lot of business coaching a lot of career coaches that are out there, but somebody to walk beside you and offer a perspective that’s outside of your own, that is curious about how your brain works in a way that you might not know how to pause in question and answer that I just love sometimes the questions, Lorissa, that you give to me, like, Oh, have you thought about it this way?

Christina: (33:13)
Or Why are you thinking about that? And I’m like, Ah , good thing you’re here. Because I didn’t even think to look at it that way. So one-on-one coaching has been a great gift for me. And so I’m very excited to offer that in Made for Greatness in general and to take on clients either in these areas or anything else. I’m just excited to work for two with women and give back to them in a way that I’ve just been blessed and that the Lord has rewarded me in my life for those gifts and talents. So yeah.

Lorissa: (33:44)
Awesome. Awesome. I know that you are gonna be a great blessing to our program, to our members. You bring a depth and a richness and a lot of experience. And again, you’re, you’ve been working on this and I think, you know, Sterling and I understand like we work on ourselves first and foremost. I mean, I like, we’re always coaching ourselves. I have my own life coach because I need it too. Like me, even though I’m certified, I coach women, I’m pretty good at coaching myself. There are moments that I, I agree, need somebody else, kind of a neutral person that can provide a perspective, can ask you certain questions, can get you to think about things in a different way. It’s so easy for us to get stuck in our thoughts and those thoughts keep us stuck from moving forward or they keep us stuck in emotions that we don’t really want or emotions that are not serving us, particularly in our relationships.

Lorissa: (34:43)
Things like that, that a simple question or looking at a different way or just having some awareness of your thoughts can just change everything. And it’s such a gift. I know that I will have a coach probably for the rest of my life because I want to grow. And in a way, part of what we do is, you know, it’s coaching and with, because we are a Catholic company where our faith is at the center in some ways, some of it’s kind of similar to spiritual direction coaching and things like that. So we always bring God into everything that we do, which I think is so beautiful and so necessary. Like you, I don’t know how you do this without, without God. He’s the answer to all of it. And so he needs to be a part of it.

Lorissa: (35:39)
And so if you are thinking about joining Masters, if you wanna come and get coached by Christina, this is the time. And I just wanna say this, if if you’re kind of thinking about it or maybe you’ve been talking to your husband or like, gosh, I kind of like to check this out, we are offering a special right now where it’s a dollar so you can come and have full access to Masters for a week, which means you could come and jump on a coaching call with each of us and experience coaching experience. You know what that’s like. You could have access to all of our signature courses, like the Stress and overwhelm course that Christina was talking about. And we have like 10 other courses. We’ve got bible studies so much so do you wanna come and check it out? This is a great time to do so. And then I just wanna say this, Christina and her beautiful daughter, Grace, her college age daughter have a podcast, it’s called Thanks Mom podcast. And do you wanna just tell us a little bit about your podcast? Oh,

Christina: (36:48)
Thank you for bringing that up, Lorissa. Yes. I love it. So the funny thing of this podcast Lorissa has was just featured on this last past Sunday, and it was nice to have our listeners hear some of just her coaching mindset that was behind it cuz she really actually prompted me to just step out in faith in that way. So it was nice to kind of honor you and introduce you to our audience in that way. But it came about, the podcast came about as part of this whole dreaming idea that came up through one on one coaching with me and Lorissa and what would that look like in my life? And Lorissa actually challenged me on it because my daughter was like, Mom, we could do this. And I’m like, Oh, I don’t, I don’t know if I could do that.

Christina: (37:31)
And Lorissa was like, Well, why not? Just again, another point of what one on one coaching, Why not, why wouldn’t you do that if you had somebody willing and open? And so our podcast has been going on since it was started a year ago this past June. So episode 55 just came out with Lorissa this pass probably a couple weeks ago now. And so go check that out. Thanks mom podcast on all the platforms that are out there, Apple, iTunes, Google, but it’s just a beautiful perspective from a mother daughter. Grace and I have a lot of similarities in our, you know, end game process, but how we get to those conclusions are very different from a senior in college and a stay-at-home mom of six. And we just like to bring different insights. I’m always learning from her.

Christina: (38:23)
And I, I hope she’s still learning from me as she’s, you know, entering her early to mid twenties now. And it’s just, we always just try to seek, trying to find the extraordinary in the ordinary. That’s our tagline of a lot of that is how can we make these ordinary moments in our daily lives of going around and finding the extraordinary and making it holy and, you know, striving to become saints. You know, if it’s changing the dirty diaper or washing the dishes or a college kid just going and sitting in class and something you might not even, you know, agree with or the person you struggle with or the roommate, whatever that might be. So it’s just those different perspectives. So it applies to a ton of ages. We have a lot of young listeners as well as, you know, my age and older, both men and women, we talk about everything from dress to reading to movies, too. We did a whole series on fruits of the Spirit that was before the Master Program did Gifts of the Spirit. So that was our whole second season. My daughter studied and PO last spring, so we batched a lot of those ahead of time because we didn’t want that to lag for our listeners and had to work around time zones and things like that. So yeah, so check that out. We love it. It’ll continue. It’s been such a, that was like my first outlet and then doing that kind of just led into a lot of life coaching. So thanks for bringing that up, Lorissa.

Lorissa: (39:52)
Yes. Yeah, I am. I’m so impressed with it. It’s fun to listen to you and it is, it’s great to get those perspectives to get, you know, Grace has such beautiful wisdom and insights and you, Christina bring, I mean you have set so many gifts as well, insights, perspectives, and it’s fun to hear you guys go back and forth and share them and isn’t this what we wanted? We want that type of relationship with our kids as they grow up and what a beautiful example it is of what that looks like for us. And so again, Christina, thank you so much for joining us in Masters May for Greatness. We know that you will be a great blessing again to our team, to our members. And just like, you know, when we first met almost two years ago and just wondering, okay, God, what, what do you have in store?

Lorissa: (40:49)
Now we get to say that again as this continues to unfold this next step of the journey. And it’ll be fun a couple years from now to look back and go look at, look at where we’re today. And I just can’t wait. So thank you. And if you want to come and check out Masters, we are diving into our quarter on prepare the way it is really preparing our hearts to encounter Christ and to just walk in his piece over these next few months walking through the holidays and just really preparing our hearts and entering into the piece that he wants to give to us. We know that this, this quarter, our hope for it is that it’s a very transformative experience for all of our members and for us. And so we would love to invite you to come and be a part of it. And with that, I just wanna remind all of us that the world offers its comfort. We’re not made for comfort, we’re Made for Greatness. And I hope you have a blessed week. God bless.